my_own_advocate: (lucifer - partners)
[personal profile] my_own_advocate
They had traditions out here on Cat Island - or, well, ways to entertain the tourists that came through here week after week. Spirits had flowed freely well into the evening, and dances and costumes and all sorts of razzle dazzle had come through the diner and engulfed the docks in light.

But somewhere near the end of the evening, close to the big finale, three people wandered further and further away onto the beach. Lucifer, of course, was carrying a cooler in one hand, and his long, thin teal shirt hung loose and open around his body.

He was smiling a bit.

"I think we're almost far enough away," he said.

[[ for them ]]

Date: 31 Dec 2024 19:45 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] hope)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia glanced back over her shoulder. The lights of the marina were getting further and further away, and she made a vague noise of agreement.

She was in what had become her staple outfit for this particular trip, her much-loved caftan over a tube top and shorts - and a very lightweight pair of flats, to ward off accidental contact with plants by stepping on them.

Date: 31 Dec 2024 20:02 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (pleased)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
“Almost,” Duke agreed, also looking back — and flashing Octavia a smile when he saw her doing it too. He was shirtless, wearing only board shorts slung low on his hips, his hair down and ruffling in the soft wind.

Date: 31 Dec 2024 20:11 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] I am always right)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"Well, we are lurking in relative darkness, compared to them," Octavia offered, with a glance at Duke.

Date: 31 Dec 2024 20:55 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (thoughtfully amused)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
“We are,” Duke agreed. “They won’t be able to hear us over the music, either.”

Date: 31 Dec 2024 21:07 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] I am always right)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia shrugged, with another lingering glance back towards the party. "I'm okay with it?" she offered.

A lot of the past week or so had involved Octavia making some attempts at being agreeable, but in this case she actually meant it.

Date: 31 Dec 2024 21:24 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (things are looking up)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"I'm definitely game." There'd been a fair amount of mild agreement between the two of them. Neither was trying to set off another argument.

He took a few more steps, then sat, legs bent, facing the water, though he was looking up at his partners instead.

"This looks like a great place to ring in the new year."

Date: 31 Dec 2024 21:35 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] shower fresh)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
For her part, Octavia wasn't flopping down anywhere at all just yet.

She was toeing her shoes off so she could get her feet on and in the sand.

Date: 31 Dec 2024 21:40 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (extra beachy)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke slid his own feet into the sand, still watching her.

"Anyone have any resolutions to share?"

Date: 31 Dec 2024 21:50 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] hope)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"I don't think I've ever had a resolution," Octavia added, watching the waves.

Well, maybe her resolution had been just to keep surviving, for many years of her life.

Date: 31 Dec 2024 21:57 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (thoughtful)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"I don't usually bother with anything serious," Duke said, nodding. He leaned back on his hands and looked at the water. "And anyway, I already have a pretty solid list of goals to work through right now. I think I'm with Luce on this one."

Date: 31 Dec 2024 22:14 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] shower fresh)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Oh. That was probably something Octavia shouldn't stay quiet on.

"Yeah," she murmured. Very soft, digging her toes further into the sand.

Date: 31 Dec 2024 22:27 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (shiny hair and concern)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke picked up one foot to poke her playfully in the leg with his toes.

"Whatcha thinking about, gona?"

Date: 31 Dec 2024 22:46 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] this face is unfair)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"Nothing, really," Octavia murmured, as she gave Duke's foot a little nudge back with hers. "Just..."

She nodded towards Lucifer.

"What he said."

Date: 31 Dec 2024 23:02 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (taking this seriously)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"Happiness, health, and peace," Duke said. He ran his toe gently down her leg. "Good plan."

Date: 1 Jan 2025 09:52 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] good hair day)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia finally turned a little more towards them, although she was looking at her feet as she did, to keep from jostling the little connection she had going with Duke.

"Think that takes more than just saying 'better communication'," she noted, soft.

Date: 1 Jan 2025 16:18 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (shiny hair and concern)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
“Yeah?” Duke said, trying to encourage her to keep talking.

He kept his toe against her leg as she turned, leaving little trails of sand against her calf.

Date: 1 Jan 2025 18:39 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] not again)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia was oblivious to how they were looking at her. Or at least seemed to be.

She gave another one of her little hums as she sat down, cross-legged, more or less where she'd been standing. It was convenient for pulling Duke's foot to rest on her lap.

Date: 1 Jan 2025 18:52 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (a nice smile)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke wiggled his sandy toes at her.

“Baby steps.”

Date: 1 Jan 2025 20:55 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] I am tired I am weary)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia gave another soft hum as she gently brushed some sand off of Duke's foot. It sounded a little far away, distracted. Like maybe she was listening to the distant noise from the party they'd left behind, more than she was listening to them.

And maybe she was.

But what it was doing was making her think about the end of the year, beginning of the next one, rituals and symbols and turning over a new leaf. She thought about what she'd got from one of the tourists and stuffed down her top, and cycles and paths and them.

And she said, "I miss us."

It sounded a little more present.

Date: 1 Jan 2025 21:07 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (taking this seriously)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke blinked at her, a little furrow between his brow. He didn’t want to derail her if she was having deep thoughts, though, so he hummed a little and wiggled his toes again. Trying to give her space without making it weird.

Date: 1 Jan 2025 21:17 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] big breath)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"I miss feeling comfortable, with you," Octavia replied, with an almost furtive glance at both of them, before she returned to gently flicking sand off Duke's toes, her other hand resting along his ankle. "Not at anyone else's expense, not like I guess I was, but... I haven't, in a while."

Date: 1 Jan 2025 23:07 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (*shrug*)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke let out a little huff. “I miss that too. I hope we’re headed in that direction now?”

Date: 2 Jan 2025 12:14 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] messes ahead)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"I... don't think I would be saying this," Octavia replied, slowly, as she finally looked up at Duke properly, "if I tho-- if I felt like we were on the path to that."

She looked to Lucifer.

"I need space to feel like there's room for me to say what I think. And like it's safe to do that." And back to Duke. "Just like you."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 13:32 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (concerned in profile)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke tensed. He looked down at his foot in her lap.

“I want that for you, too.”

He’d thought he’d been trying to give that to her. But apparently not.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 14:10 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] new patterns)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia inhaled a slow breath.

"These days, when we fight, no one leaves," she started. Her gaze was getting drawn down to Duke's foot, too, which she was really now just cradling in her lap. "And that's good. But... After things calm down, I feel like we just end up talking about how we fought. I feel like we don't go back to what the actual fight was about, so nothing really... feels resolved."

And another breath.

"And I don't want to make anyone feel like I'm trying to take up more than my share of space with how I feel about things, but I also don't know where the boundaries actually are, because I was never trying to do that in the first place, so I just... Feel like I have to focus on just not saying anything that might start another fight."

It was a kinder way of phrasing the way she actually felt, but the gist was accurate.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 15:18 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (oh dear)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke nodded slowly. "That's . . . how I feel a lot, too," he said honestly. "Like if I say the wrong thing, it's like . . . setting off a bomb."

He let that sit for a moment, then wiggled his toes at her again.

"When I ask what you're thinking, or how you feel, I try to do it when I feel like I have space for the answer. The real answer. Even if it might hurt. When I'm telling you how I feel -- that's when I need that space. I hope that makes sense."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 15:36 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] I am tired I am weary)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia looked up again, another slow inhale passing through her nose.

She really was trying, here. Even if she looked a little defeated, right now.

"Not really," she admitted. "Because what I just heard, what it sounds like to me, is that... You get to choose to take space when you need it. And I get to have it if you choose to ask me."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 15:59 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (*shrug*)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke shot Lucifer a helpless glance, swallowing back the desire to scream.

"O . . .kay." He frowned at her. "You understand you can ask for things too, right?" The side of his mouth ticked up, not quite a smile. "It'd be kind of nice if you did. You -- from my end, it seems like -- you usually just expect me to know, and then get mad when I inevitably get it wrong."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 17:23 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] yeah that'll suck)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia was now trying really hard not to read too far into gestures. Really hard.

"I was told to my face that I make my feelings out to be the most important," she said, steady and even and pretty obviously forcing her voice to be that way. "That me expressing them feels like an attack that needs defending from."

Between that and getting shit for not expressing things made for a tightrope act she was clearly nowhere near mastering.

She looked from one of them to the other.

"And I already feel like I should've kept this to myself, too."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 17:33 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (oh dear)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke hadn't pulled his foot from her lap. He'd stopped wiggling his toes, though.

"If you ask for what you need," he said carefully, looking at his own toes. "I'll do my best to accommodate. And if I can't, I'll try to tell you why." He looked up at her again. "I'd like to be able to expect the same from you, if that's okay."

That sounded a lot like the boundaries that Dr. Shin had demonstrated for him. He hoped she'd see it that way, too.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 17:49 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] at least it's quiet)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia just wanted to fling herself into the ocean.

"Acknowledgment would be good, too."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 18:00 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (thoughtful)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Even when Duke moved carefully, took his time, he still did it wrong.

He closed his eyes. (They were starting to burn a little.) "I'm sorry," he said, voice soft and spare. "I didn't mean to imply that you weren't allowed to feel your feelings."

There was more he wanted to say. He was pretty sure if he tried to say it, he'd do it wrong again and make things worse. So he left it at that.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 18:18 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] things always happen)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia didn't know what she was supposed to do with raised eyebrows right now.

"Express my feelings," because unlike some people, she'd never had a problem feeling her feelings, as everyone here was sadly familiar with, "and why did it take you until someone told you to say that?"

(Maybe it would've helped if she'd tried to take another deep breath or something, here.)
Edited Date: 2 Jan 2025 18:31 (UTC)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 18:39 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (are you kidding me?)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"Because I'm not a mind reader," Duke snapped. "And as I've been helpfully reminded of repeatedly lately, I'm apparently very selfish. So yes, you have to tell me things when you want me to do them."

He looked away -- from her and from Lucifer.

(He didn't pull his foot from her lap, though. Or pull back from Lucifer's weight at his side. )

Date: 2 Jan 2025 18:43 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] come with me if you want)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Well, Octavia had been about to say something.

And now that thing had an uncomfortable chance of festering as her mouth snapped shut, instead.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 18:46 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (looking down)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke stared down at his knees and waited. Feeling a bit like he'd been sent to the principal's office.

Only, you know, he actually cared what the two people here thought of him.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 18:59 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] withering look)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
So much for taking a breath.

"If you think it's pedantic that I would like to feel like what I was saying was understood," Octavia replied, measured tone sounding particularly forced, "then you should maybe get right back off your high horse."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 19:03 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
And here Duke had just wanted to protest that he thought he had been listening. He'd offered her boundaries when she'd asked. And when she didn't like them, he'd rephrased them. Then apologized when they said he needed to do that.

Now he flicked his eyes between the two of them, wondering how Lucifer would handle this part of the 'nitpicking words' argument.

(He felt frozen in place now, muscles tense in what had started as a relaxed sprawl on the sand.)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 19:14 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] tribe leader)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia's jaw tightened a little further.

Although what she said was, "Well, you're gonna think whatever you want to think, so I'm not going to bother."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 19:19 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (you know how it is)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"Okay, come on," Duke said. He screwed his eyes shut and shook his head again. "Octavia. This is why it feels unsafe sometimes when you express your feelings. Because if we disagree with you at all, you snap or clam up or pick at our words until you're the victim."

. . . Fuck, that was not going to help anything at all.

"Ask us for what you want. Luce and I are very accommodating. But we're not perfect beings, for fuck sake. And that needs to be okay."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 19:36 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] two seconds from crying)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia got up so abruptly and with such little grace that it sent sand flying. Sorry about your abandoned foot, Duke. Except maybe not really, after that victim thing.

(Far less offensive than probably several of her choices in this conversation, but, well, something had snapped there.)

She suddenly couldn't see very well through the blur in her eyes, so she addressed... their general direction. "Well, you can think in peace, now." And she grabbed her shoes and turned to stomp off further down the beach.

(Something that didn't feel safe right now was letting them see her crying.)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 19:52 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (not quite first aid)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke curled in on himself, foot and all.

"Are we supposed to chase after her now?" he asked. Lucifer, nominally, but also the universe at large.

So much for their track record of people not leaving.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 20:27 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (that's probably not good)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
“I know,” Duke said. (He also didn’t entirely think he was wrong. Just that he shouldn’t have said it out loud.)

He tipped his head in the direction she’d stormed off, without actually looking.

“Go.”

He’d be here. With the wine. Which he might or might not drink.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 20:36 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] shattering glass)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia hadn't made it very far, stumbling like she was. First because of trying to get her shoes on, then because of simply trying to keep moving on uneven, sandy terrain, in the dark, while tears clouded her vision and rolled down her cheeks.

This was what she got for trying to go into a big conversation half-cocked. As if she didn't know how these things went, as if she didn't know what she was like. Wasn't she proving at least some of their points by storming off?

But she'd been trying to hold something in and hold something together for most of the time they'd been on this island.

And whatever she'd been holding that together with had just given out.

... Much like one of her legs seemed to, right then, as her foot caught on something, and sent her toppling onto her knees in the sand.
Edited Date: 2 Jan 2025 20:37 (UTC)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 20:49 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] crushing)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
He found her still on her knees, slumped over and sobbing in a manner bordering on hysterical. Because all of this hadn't been embarrassing enough, so far.

(You know, for the Octavia later who would have to look back on her own actions.)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 20:59 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([spec] pain scream)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia's little flail when he touched her was reflexive, more than anything.

Same as the noise like a wounded animal that she made.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 21:05 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] crushing)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
After another, even weaker flail, Octavia slumped more against him. Almost like she had no choice.

Still crying, sobbing in a way that seemed to only barely give her a chance to get a breath.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 21:09 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (down the hatch)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke wasn't watching. (Fairly pointedly, trying to give Octavia the space she seemed to need.) But he couldn't help but hear.

The shout. The hurt noise. The sobbing.

(He'd done that to her. Again.)

He shoved that thought away.

(It must be nice to feel things out loud like that. Things that weren't anger.)

That one wasn't much better.

He started drinking the wine in long, deep swigs.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 21:18 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] .5 secs from losing it)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia made another pained noise.

It sounded like 'no'.

(When was this ever supposed to be all right if they - she - couldn't even talk?)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 21:24 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] don't make me beg)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"How many times?"

It was louder than a whisper, but thanks to Octavia's currently limited lung capacity, not a full wail, either.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 21:32 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] .5 secs from losing it)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
And now Octavia's voice went small and broken.

"What if I can't?"

Useless question. She knew the outcome. It was a not-insignificant part of the reason for her current hysterics.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 21:42 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] just gonna cry for a bit)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia answered with... another broken sob.

It wasn't her best work.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 21:52 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] just gonna cry for a bit)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
It was... charitable of him to be saying so much in a moment where Octavia couldn't even begin to process half of it.

Also, she seemed to be trying to get up right now.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 21:56 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] heavy heart)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Even as she got back on her feet, Octavia was leaning on him heavily.

Gasped a few labored breaths.

"T-take me back?"

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:01 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] tired and sad)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Well, at least her legs and feet still worked, even with the heavy lean, even with how fuzzy and pained her mind felt.

She moved with Lucifer.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:05 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (extra beachy)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke heard the scrunch of their feet in the sand getting closer. He took another long swig from the wine and set it aside again.

His face was angled their way, but he was looking at the sand.

(He didn't resent Octavia her feelings. Or at least, it wasn't only resentment. He ached for it. For that kind of freedom for himself.)

(He'd always wanted to be more like her.)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:12 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] .5 secs from losing it)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Once they were only a handful of steps away, Octavia pushed away from Lucifer - and stumbled over to where she could sink down by Duke's side, facing him.

She gasped his name. It sounded strangled, because everything out of her mouth right now did.

(She looked a mess, no surprise there.)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:18 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (hiding behind the hair)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke didn't look at her again yet.

"I'm sorry I said you make yourself a victim," he said. Voice still quiet and spare. "That was cruel."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:22 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] shattering glass)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia's expression wobbled some more. Or wobbled again.

"I'm sorry," she breathed. "For being so difficult. And because I find words so... hard. To find."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:24 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (hiding behind the hair)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke let out a flat huff, not quite a laugh. "You're better at them than me."

'More precise', Lucifer had said. Not better. More precise.

"I just want you to talk to me," he said. "And I want to talk to you. Without . . . screwing it up all the time."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:30 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] .5 secs from losing it)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"I know."

The words seemed to only barely make it out past her throat.

Also, she lifted up her arms, and tried to slide them around his shoulders - clearly braced for rejection the whole time.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:36 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (hugging but fucked)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke didn't reject the embrace. He let it happen without relaxing, hand coming up shakily before finding a spot to rest on her back.

"You're allowed to express yourself."

That seemed really important to say out loud right now.

"I wish I could be . . . precise enough. For you."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:42 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] shattering glass)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
While her arms wound themselves tight around him, Octavia pressed her face against his shoulder. (And his shoulder was about to be wet.)

"I'm sorry I can't seem to control it," she said, close to a whisper. Strained. "I tried, I really tried, but I'd been... holding on for too long --"

Date: 2 Jan 2025 22:54 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (oh dear)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke shook his head, hanging onto her a little harder in return.

"I don't want you to have to hold on. But I can't get everything right all the time."

He let out a slightly broken laugh.

"You want me to ask things. Not assume. But it feels like you're always assuming the worst of me." He pulled back, trying to look at her face. "Is that still all in my head?"

Lucifer had said something about it too, this time, though. He was pretty sure of that, at least.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 23:05 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] tired and sad)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia remained probably not in the best state to give the most coherent answers, considering she still sounded about two steps away from hyperventilating.

But she was trying.

Also yes, her face was tear-streaked. "I don't think I do," she said, "but, there's just, you've said things. In our fights. That are hard to forget."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 23:18 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (oh dear)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"What things?" Duke asked. Croaked, maybe. His face wasn't entirely dry, either.

(He'd 'said things'. Of course he said things. He always said things. Usually half of it was babble to try and fill space while he tried to find the things he actually wanted to say.)

Date: 2 Jan 2025 23:26 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] heavy heart)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"About me," Octavia whispered, hoarse. "About how I say things. Do things."

She wasn't exactly revealing anything new, considering the earlier parts of the current mess.

"How it feels."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 23:33 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (height difference kink)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke did his best not to hear that as a criticism. As him being wrong for asking for what he needed.

(He might have been wrong about how he asked. His own use of the word 'victim' echoed in his head.)

"You've said things to me, too," he said, rather than try to apologize for things he wasn't sure of. "Things that echo in my head." Some of which had been echoing for years, now. "Things that I get . . . defensive about."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 23:38 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] shattering glass)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"I probably didn't mean for them to... stay around like that," Octavia murmured. Her eyes were brimming over again. It didn't take much, right now. "I hope I didn't."

Date: 2 Jan 2025 23:42 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (taking this seriously)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"Yeah." Duke's lip quirked. More of a smile than it had been last time he aimed that expression at her. "Neither do I."

They both needed to learn how to let some of what the other person said and did go. Not take it as personally.

Date: 2 Jan 2025 23:44 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] woe strikes)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"But it means you know why it's hard," Octavia murmured. "To ignore."

Date: 3 Jan 2025 00:06 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (checking in)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
“I do,” Duke said. “It’s hard. But it’s also worth it.”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 00:09 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] shattering glass)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"I'm worried," Octavia admitted, and oh, her voice was little more than a broken whisper again. "What if it's too hard?"

What if they lost all of this.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 00:43 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (snuggly hat)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke wanted to tell her it wouldn’t be. He wanted to be able to promise.

He couldn’t set himself up to break more promises to her.

“I’m worried about that, too,” he admitted. “I think it would be really bad. For all of us.” He shook his head a tiny bit. “But that’s why we’re going to keep trying.”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 00:47 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] .5 secs from losing it)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia wouldn't have believed him even if he had tried to promise, anyway.

She swallowed.

More tears escaped onto her cheeks.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 01:20 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (snuggly hat)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
They were on the same page there, at least.

“It’s okay to be afraid,” he said softly. “We just need to figure out how to be afraid and keep trying anyway,”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 13:31 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] tired and sad)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia pressed her face to Duke's shoulder again. At some point here, she was hoping she'd manage a steady breath again. Just the one would do.

Not yet, though.

"It's just been so... hard, lately," she muttered. "Like everything's changing. Shifting."

Date: 3 Jan 2025 14:53 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (height difference kink)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke’s face crumpled. It wasn’t everything changing; it was him.

“If you ask me for something,” he said again, voice soft. “I will try to give it to you. And if I can’t, I’ll try to tell you why.”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 15:07 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] shower fresh)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
He might've been the starting point, but the ripples went beyond him. Into other things.

"And you... want the same?" she murmured. "The other way around?"

Date: 3 Jan 2025 15:48 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (pretty boy)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"Yeah," Duke said. "That would be nice."

It felt like a good place to start, to him.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 16:01 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] neutral ground)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
It still felt like a starting place that they were going to struggle to get to, to Octavia.

But she nodded, faintly, against his shoulder.

"And what if we're both asking for things that... the other can't give?"

Like, say, space. To have their feelings out in the open.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 16:07 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (oh dear)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"Then we'll know why," Duke said. "And we can go from there."

Date: 3 Jan 2025 16:15 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] I am tired I am weary)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Again it sounded much neater than Octavia could see it working out in real life, but it didn't seem helpful to point out in the moment. And it was hard for her to judge which of her thoughs were rational and which where fueled by whatever grief she'd succumbed to out further on the beach.

So she nodded again.

And after some hesitation, asked, "Should I tell you what I needed tonight? When I... started this."

Date: 3 Jan 2025 16:17 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (shiny hair and concern)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
"Sure," Duke said. (She'd asked for boundaries. Eventually an apology. And he'd done his best to provide both -- only to get it wrong and send her running away screaming. He would love an explanation.)

Date: 3 Jan 2025 17:04 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] got cut)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"This might sound familiar to you," Octavia muttered. "But I needed to be heard. And understood."

A breath. Still not fully steady.

"I was bringing something to you that I'd been keeping to myself for a while," she continued. "At least for me, I was saying that there is this thing that I haven't been able to do, and I felt like what I was getting back was that I should be able to. Like I couldn't even get the problem across. And I needed so badly to feel understood." Here, she turned to look to Lucifer. "Bad enough that it makes me pedantic."

Because what else had there been left for the desperation in her, except clinging to words?

Date: 3 Jan 2025 18:32 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (*shrug*)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
“Okay,” Duke said. He glanced at Lucifer, then took a slow breath and addressed Octavia again. “What do you need from me to help you feel understood?”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 19:15 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] i had a dream once)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"Acnowledgment feels like a good start," Octavia replied, as her gaze slid from Lucifer back to Duke. "And taking the time to listen. Before trying to... solve whatever it is."

Date: 3 Jan 2025 19:24 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (shiny hair and concern)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke nodded. It wasn’t terribly different from what he’d asked for from Lucifer.

“I’ll do my best. Can I ask you for something?”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 19:30 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] i had a dream once)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia nodded, too.

"What is it?"

Something in her felt immediately braced for something. Their track record with this question wasn't stellar, lately.
Edited Date: 3 Jan 2025 19:30 (UTC)

Date: 3 Jan 2025 19:43 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (checking in)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
“Can you be patient with me?” Duke asked. “When I get the words wrong?”

He still couldn’t read her mind. He hoped he wasn’t somehow asking for too much.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 19:47 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] I am tired I am weary)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"If you can also try to show me you've listened."

No one here was a mindreader. Somehow not even Lucifer.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 20:02 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (looking down)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke flinched. That ‘if’ weighed a lot in his head. Said her care and patience were contingent on him doing something he’d thought he already did.

He could earn patience if he did everything else perfectly.

“And if I get it wrong?” he asked, voice hoarse.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 20:13 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] messes ahead)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"Then you try again."

He had heard the 'try' the first time she'd said it, right?

Date: 3 Jan 2025 20:20 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (murder in mind)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
“While you’re yelling or freezing me out?” Duke asked with a wet huff. “That’s. . . .”

He needed her patience to listen. She needed his listening to be patient.

One of them would have to give. And as usual, Duke decided it was him.

“I’ll . . . I’ll try.”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 20:46 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] considering)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia had definitely not meant to communicate it in as transactional a fashion as he was taking it.

Also, she fully ignored the last thing he said. Happened when the lead-in was what it was. "I meant I'd try too," she said, voice just a fraction tighter.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 21:05 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (shiny hair and concern)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke blinked at her. His expression lifted again.

“Oh.” He gave her a shaky smile. “Right.” He started to apologize, then stopped himself. “Good.”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 21:08 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] tribe leader)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"We need to both be trying," Octavia said, still with some of that tightness. Just to make it extra clear.

And then she looked to Lucifer again.

"All of us."

Date: 3 Jan 2025 21:33 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (*shrug*)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke nodded. “Even when we’re mad. Or scared. Or confused.”

Date: 3 Jan 2025 21:36 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu blodreina] mmmmhmmmmmm)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"Yeah," Octavia agreed quietly, nodding. "Even then. Even when it's hard."

And it was hard all the fucking time, lately.

Date: 3 Jan 2025 21:55 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (pretty boy)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Duke let out a wet laugh, wondering if that was partially a prompt from Lucifer. He decided not to say it, though.

Instead: "I think we found our New Year's resolution."

Date: 3 Jan 2025 21:59 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neu] i had a dream once)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
Octavia... swallowed.

And glanced at Lucifer.

Date: 4 Jan 2025 04:05 (UTC)
betterthanaplan: (*shrug*)
From: [personal profile] betterthanaplan
Yeah, Duke was already worrying that he’d Gotten It Wrong again, with that swallow and look.

“Because we all love each other,” he agreed cautiously. “So we’re going to keep working on it. Not just this year.”

Was he now trying too hard? He worried he was maybe trying too hard.

Date: 4 Jan 2025 09:09 (UTC)
okteiviakom: ([neg] woe strikes)
From: [personal profile] okteiviakom
"I love both of you, too," Octavia murmured as she reached out to take Lucifer's hand.

Yeah, that.

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